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MURRAY GOES INTO DETAIL ABOUT STABBING


'Lightning' Lee Murray spoke publicly for the first time exclusively to MMAWeekly.com about the September 28th altercation outside of a London nightclub that resulted in multiple injuries to Murray and left him fighting for his life.

MMAWeekly: Lee, first of all, it's nice to talk to you. That's something that I think a lot of people didn't think would ever happen with everything going on with you. Talk about your situation and what happened to you in the streets of London.

Lee Murray: I was at a nightclub. I was with a few of my friends...went to a casino and gambled and went to the club. Did a bit of partying. Come out of the club and there was a big fight that broke out outside the club between a group of guys and some guy that was with a friend of mine. One of my friends got involved in the fight. I tried to help him because about six or seven guys was on one of my friends. That's when I got stabbed. I got stabbed in the head first. I thought it was a punch. When I felt the blood coming down my face, I just wiped the blood and just continued to fight. Next, I looked down at my chest and blood was literally shooting out of my chest. I looked down, and I knew I had been stabbed in the heart by the way the flow of the blood was coming out of my chest. It was literally flying out of my chest like a yard in-front of me.

MMAWeekly: You just thought you were getting punched? You didn't even realize you were stabbed until you saw the blood just pouring out of your body?

Murray: Yes. I didn't feel nothing. I didn't feel nothing at all. When I saw the blood on my head, I thought someone had punched me in the head because there was about four or five of them on me, and one of them obviously had a big knife. When he stabbed me in the head the blood just came racing down my face. I wiped the blood out away from my face to get it out of my eye and just continued punching. It wasn't until I looked down at my chest that I see the blood squirting out of my chest that I knew I had been stabbed in the heart. I took my shirt off and put my shirt in the hole and tried to stop the bleeding. I just run off down the road and jumped into some car. I think there was two girls getting into the car leaving the club, and I just jumped in their car and said get me to a hospital quick. I've been stabbed in the heart. I didn't know these girls, and these girls just drove off. These girls saved my life. I went to jump into a taxi first, and the taxi driver, he locked his doors and just raced off. He wouldn't let me get into his car.

MMAWeekly: So you get with these two girls, you have no idea who they are. They take you to the hospital, and you actually died. Correct?

Murray: Yes. I died three times. What happened was when I jumped in the girls car, they didn't take me to the hospital because they didn't know where the hospital was because because they were in central London. What they done, they rung up for an ambulance and the person on the end of the phone said you're going to have to get to somewhere where we can pick him up from. The girls said they worked in a casino in central London, I'll take him to the casino and just meet me there. The ambulance met at this casino. The police turn up, and the police were there. The ambulance turned up and they got me out of the car. I was out at this time. I lost so much blood that I was out. I couldn't remember being there. Then I remember waking up in the ambulance with masks on my face, and I tried to rip the masks off. I didn't know what was going on. I blacked back out again, and then I woke back up in the hospital on the operating table. One of my friends come charging through and they were shouting at him to get out because the danger of getting an infection. The next minute I was out again, and I woke up in intensive care about two days later.

MMAWeekly: Unbelievable. So, you told me the longest you were dead was for four minutes.

Murray: Yes. I think it was the last time I died. I died three times. The last time I died I was dead for about four minutes. The surgeon said to my family and stuff, he said look because he's been dead for longer than three minutes, I think, if he recovers there's a good possibility that he's going to be brain damaged.

MMAWeekly: Man. And here you are, seriously, weeks later talking to us. The recovery is unbelievable. I mean somebody is looking out for you man because you shouldn't even be talking to us right now.

Murray: I know. They said to me, if it was the average person they'd be dead. They would have never survived it. They said because you're an athlete and all the training you put your body through, that's what saved your life.

MMAWeekly: Usually when you go through something like that you have a life changing, you know, mentally you start seeing the world in a different way. Have you changed your ways now because I know you've had hundreds of street fights?

Murray: I think it's made me stronger mentally. I think it's made me stronger as a person. I think when I comeback, people were thinking he ain't going to be able to fight again, and he ain't going to be as strong as he was. I think I'm going to comeback stronger from this. I think it's going to make me train harder. All this time I've trained, I never put 100% in my training. If I had a fight coming up I'd train eight to ten weeks before the fight, and after the fight I'd go out partying for two months and I wouldn't train...I never put 100% into my training. I think now, once I'm recovered and I can train properly, I'm going to put 100% into my training. And I think I'm going to comeback as a stronger fighter and a person.

MMAWeekly: We knew you coming into this. You were kind of a legend on the streets being known as a street fighter. Does that keep you away now? I mean are you going to have anymore fights on the street?

Murray: I've done that a lot. That's me. That's how I was brought up. It's going to be hard for me to change that.

MMAWeekly: Even after all of this? I mean you almost died. That still doesn't change you?

Murray: The day is written for when I'm going to die. My day is already written for when I'm going to die, and that's the way I believe. It's not changing what I do in my life. I think my day is already written for when I'm going to die and that's that. I don't think I can change the way I am. That's me. If I wasn't like that I wouldn't be the fighter I am, and I wouldn't be who I am.

MMAWeekly: Lee, let me ask you, so rumor has it you're already training. Are you crazy?

Murray: I'm going training in about, I'm leaving my house in about an hour for training.

MMAWeekly: Wow man. That's unreal. So what do you do training right now? What are you physically able to do?

Murray: They want me to start a bit of ground work. At the moment all I've been doing is pad work and stuff, and some light running, and some light cardio work, body weight exercises. I can't really doing any heavy weight training at the moment because of my chest, because they broke my sternum. I've got a scar all the way down my chest where they broke my sternum to get to my heart. It will probably be after Christmas, the new year before I'll be able to do some weight training again. -- I've lost twenty pounds. I only weigh 170 now. On the night I got stabbed I weighed 188-190, and now I weigh 170.

MMAWeekly: As far as fighting goes, and I almost hate to ask this question since you almost died, but let me ask you; obviously you're training to get into shape, but I'm sure you want to fight again. What are you thinking as far as a time table, a time-line to fight again?

Murray: I want to be fighting April, July.

MMAWeekly: Are you sure?

Murray: I'll definitely be fighting in July on the Cage Rage.

MMAWeekly: You are crazy Lee. What weight will you be fighting? I know you lost a lot of weight.

Murray: 185. 185. After Christmas, once I start weight training again and doing a bit of heavy weights my weight will go back up. That won't be a problem. It may take me eight weeks to put the muscle back on properly.

MMAWeekly: You said you aren't going to change any of your ways. You're still kind of a street fighter. That's kind of who you are and what you are. Aren't you concerned for your family? Aren't you worried about what happens to you if this happens again and you're dead for more than four minutes?

Murray: Yes. Obviously I've been thinking about it. I've got kids and stuff, and it wouldn't be nice for them to grow up without a dad. Every time I get into a fight on the street, it's usually when I go out to nightclubs, back to the nightclubs and I usually end up in a fight. Usually it ain't my fight. It's one of my friends or someone else and I'm sticking up for someone and I end up getting dragged into the fight. The way I see it, the only way street fighting for me is going to stop is I'm going to have to stop going out to nightclubs which I haven't gone out to no nightclubs apart from on my birthday. I went out to a club and there was no trouble. I stayed out of trouble. I think the only way for me to not get into a street fight is for me to stop going out clubbing on the weekend.

MMAWeekly: Lee, what does your body physically look like right now? I mean what kind of scars do you have?

Murray: I look like Frankenstein. I look like I've been put back together. I've got a scar all the way down my chest. I've got another scar down from my abdominal muscles. I've got like a big round hole, it looks like a gunshot hole, underneath my armpit. I've got one on my nipple where I got my nipple cut off. I got stabbed outside the club the week before.

MMAWeekly: Did you just say your nipple got cut off?

Murray: Yeah. I got into a fight outside the same club the week before and got stabbed twice.

MMAWeekly: Lee, what the heck are you doing man? We need your manager to step in, lock this guy up and not let him into nightclubs. You got stabbed twice the week before?

Murray: I got stabbed outside the same club the week before. When my mom heard that I went back to the same club, she went crazy. She went, you got stabbed outside the week before and you went back to the same club? She went, you're nuts!

MMAWeekly: You are nuts Lee. I'm telling you. Your mom thinks you're crazy. I think you're crazy man. Look at you. Oh man. So Lee, as far as fighting goes, you'll probably take a tuneup fight in April or whatever, who do you want to fight? When you are 100%, when you come back 100%, I know a lot of fans want to see you fight; who do you want to fight?

Murray: When I come back, they'll probably give me someone, not someone in the top ten. They'll probably give me probably a warm up or tune up fight first and then my next fight Matt Lindland. He comes screaming and shouting his mouth off saying he wanted to fight, calling me out, and stuff. I think it would be a good fight for me as well. I think his style is perfect for me.

MMAWeekly: Can you fight in the States, or are you restricted? I know you had visa problems.

Murray: It's going to be hard for me to get back out there. I've got people planning and planning. The police won't let me out there. They won't let me in the country.

MMAWeekly: That's what I heard.

Murray: It's the police. Look. My criminal record ain't really that bad. Stuff I've been convicted for really isn't that bad. The last time I was convicted of something was about five or six years ago.

MMAWeekly: Well, I hope it all works out for you.

Murray: I'll keep applying. What it was, when I fought in the UFC, in UFC 46, I was on trial for charges for attempted murder...I didn't tell them that I had charges outstanding when I went to America. When I come back and I reapplied, they went crazy. They said, you didn't tell us you were on trial for murder and attempted murder...I said to them so what? I didn't get charged for it. I got brought to the police station and questioned about it. I said, why have I got to tell you about that for? It ain't something that I've been convicted for. Then I got acquitted of all the charges like a month later.

MMAWeekly: Gotcha. That makes sense then. So they've still got to keep you there for now?

Murray: I'm going to reapply soon to see if I can get back to America. I'm just going to say look, I want to go to America for and see what they say.

MMAWeekly: Lee, seriously, I'm glad I'm glad everything is going OK. I know so many people on our SoundOff Forum and other forums really was hoping everything would be OK.

Murray: Yeah. I want to say thanks to all the people. The fans were great. They were supporting me. There were thousands of people supporting me, praying for me, and I really appreciate that. I really appreciate that.

MMAWeekly: Lee, good luck to you. It's always a pleasure. One of my favorite moments of the MMAWeekly SoundOff Radio was when Phil Baroni came on and he was talking...

Murray: I was supposed to fight Phil in December.

MMAWeekly: Really?

Murray: I think they signed the night I got stabbed. I think they signed the fight that night or the night before for me to fight Phil in Cage Rage December 1st.

MMAWeekly: Really?

Murray: Yeah. I was stabbed and had to pull out of the fight. They replaced me with Mark Weir, and now I think Baroni has pulled out of the fight for some reason. I'm not sure.

MMAWeekly: Would you like to fight Phil?

Murray: Yeah. No problem. Once I'm 100% again, yeah.

MMAWeekly: That would be a fun fight man.

Murray: It's one of those fights that has got to happen. Everyone wants to see it, and it's going to happen whether it be in Cage Rage, Pride, the UFC, whatever.

MMAWeekly: I'd love to see it. Hey Lee, seriously, I'm glad you're OK man. I hope everything goes well for you.

Murray: Thanks. Take care. Bye.

Source: MMA Weekly

MEDICAL SUSPENSIONS HANDED DOWN

Mixed martial artists put their bodies on the line each and every time they compete, as reflected in the medical suspensions that were handed down after three recent UFC events.

Zuffa doesn't have anything to do with the length or type of medical suspension that any given fighter receives, as these decisions are left up to the doctors of the various athletic commissions, in this case the Nevada State Athletic Commission. These medical suspensions were given out after various TUF 2 fights that were taped between June 15th and July 12th, the Ultimate Fight Night show on Spike TV back on October 3rd, the live TV finale of The Ultimate Fighter 2 on November 5th, and the UFC 56 pay-per-view on November 19th.

Medical Suspensions Stemming from Ultimate Fighter 2 Pre-Taped Fights

-Rob MacDonald was medically suspended indefinitely due to a torn left labrum and a torn left bicep

-Dan Christison was medically suspended indefinitely due to nasal and facial fractures

-Jorge Gurgel was medically suspended indefinitely due to a torn left ACL

Notes and Analysis:
-In the case of all three of these fighters, they will all need to get medical clearance from a doctor before they can fight again. What is so disheartening about these injuries is something that I've written about before, and that is the way in which these fighters were treated and portrayed on the show.

Dan Christison was portrayed as someone who "just didn't step up" and perform as well as he should have in his loss to Seth Petruzelli. The reality show would have led you to believe that he either gassed out or just didn't have the heart and desire to be there. In fact, he suffered multiple fractures to his nose and face. You'd think that tidbit of information would have been mentioned on the show, but it apparently made more sense to bury a fighter who was on his way out of the show at that point.

Jorge Gurgel was treated as a warrior who tried to gut it out despite having a torn ACL, which is a very serious knee injury. At the same time, Rob MacDonald was portrayed as a bum and a coward despite the fact that he stepped into the Octagon and fought with a torn labrum, which is a very serious shoulder injury. Not only that, but in the process of fighting with a torn labrum, MacDonald also tore his bicep. Everyone involved in the show who made disparaging remarks about MacDonald should be ashamed of themselves, from the people who made the comments in the first place, to the editors of the show who put a strong emphasis on them.

Beyond the fact that fighters who didn't deserve it were disrespected on national television, TUF 2 also brought back up the issue of fighters who go into fights knowing that they have a major injury, and the fact that this has repeatedly managed to elude the attention of the athletic commissions.

How exactly is it that Jorge Gurgel was allowed to fight with "no ACL in his knee," as he put it? How exactly is it that Rob MacDonald was allowed to fight with a torn labrum? Either the athletic commission knew that they had these serious injuries and still allowed them to fight (which would be wrong), or the fighters lied to the athletic commissions and/or failed to disclose their serious injuries (which would also be wrong).

This is not just limited to TUF 2.. How did Ken Shamrock get medical clearance for his fight at UFC 40 when he had a torn meniscus in his knee going into the fight? How did Ken Shamrock get medical clearance for his fight at UFC 48 when he had a torn rotator cuff in his shoulder going into the fight? How did Forrest Griffin get medical clearance for his fight at UFC 55 when he had a torn rotator cuff and a torn ligament in his knee going into the fight?

The various athletic commissions, whether it's the Nevada State Athletic Commission, New Jersey State Athletic Commission, or Mohegan Tribe Athletic Council (since those are the only three jurisdictions in which the UFC regularly holds events), need to band together and do everything in their power to make sure that their pre-fight examinations are thorough enough to discover serious injuries even if a fighter wants to keep his injuries hidden.

One other note on the TUF 2 medical suspensions is that the doctors didn't hand out anywhere near as many suspensions as they normally would for twelve fights, largely because short-term medical suspensions were unnecessary under the circumstances. As part of the exhaustive agreements that they had to sign to be on the show (which included a multi-million-dollar fine if they told anyone about the fight results), all of the fighters involved in TUF 2 were already barred from fighting again until TUF 2 was done airing. Therefore, the doctors had no need to give out a bunch of short-term medical suspensions where they otherwise would have.

Medical Suspensions Stemming from the Ultimate Fight Night show on October 3rd

-Evan Tanner was medically suspended for eight weeks due to multiple large lacerations on his scalp and face

-Jay Hieron was medically suspended for eight weeks due to a large laceration on his forehead

-Josh Koscheck was medically suspended for six weeks due to punishment taken in his TKO loss

-Fabiano Scherner was medically suspended for six weeks due to punishment taken in his TKO loss

-Brock Larson was medically suspended for four weeks due to a facial laceration

Notes and Analysis:

-There were no long-term medical suspensions on this card, which is a rarity for a sanctioned MMA event. Only five of the fourteen fighters who competed on this event were given any medical suspensions, and three of those were due to cuts.

-Not coincidentally, when a cut is bad enough during a fight that the doctor advises the referee to stop the fight, it's usually a bad enough cut to warrant a medical suspension, as was the case on this event with Evan Tanner and Jay Hieron.

-At the same time, you can be medically suspended due to a cut even if that cut didn't end the fight. Brock Larson fought the entire three rounds on the non-televised undercard of this event, and lost via decision to Jon Fitch, but he was still given a four-week medical suspension due to a cut.

-Josh Koscheck and Fabiano Scherner were both medically suspended due to the fact that they took some clean shots at the end of their respective fights (both of these fighters lost by TKO). Koscheck in particular was not only knocked into a state of semi-consciousness, but was then choked out while in that state, causing him to lose for the first time in the UFC.

Medical Suspensions Stemming from the Ultimate Finale show on November 5th

-Kit Cope was medically suspended for six months unless he can get his shoulder and clavicle injuries cleared by an orthopedic doctor

-Sam Morgan was medically suspended for six months unless he can get his orbital and nasal fractures cleared by a doctor

-Kerry Schall was medically suspended for six months unless he can get his left knee and right hand injuries cleared by a doctor

-Marcus Davis was medically suspended for eight weeks due to an eyebrow laceration

-Diego Sanchez was medically suspended for six weeks due to an upper eyelid laceration

-Nick Diaz was medically suspended for six weeks due to facial bruises and a scalp laceration

-Rashad Evans was medically suspended for six weeks due to the heavy amount of punishment that he took in his slugfest decision victory

-Brad Imes was medically suspended for six weeks due to the heavy amount of punishment that he took in his slugfest decision loss

-Joe Stevenson was medically suspended for six weeks due to punishment taken in his decision victory

Notes and Analysis:

-This event was the complete opposite of the October 3rd Spike TV event in terms of the number of major injuries that were sustained on this card. There wasn't a single fight that didn't result in at least one of the fighters being medically suspended, and in total nine of the fourteen fighters who competed were medically suspended. There were also three major, long-term suspensions, which just goes to show the risk that these fighters take every time they step in the Octagon.

-After his loss to Kenny Florian in the opening televised bout, Kit Cope made reference to the fact that he went into the fight with shoulder and clavicle injuries, and he wasn't kidding. It's courageous for a fighter to want to go ahead with a scheduled fight despite being injured, but the question has to be asked yet again: Why did the doctors not detect Cope's major injuries in their pre-fight physical examination of him?

-Three of the four biggest medical suspensions came from the non-televised undercard, including the six-month suspension handed down to Sam Morgan. It's hard not to feel bad for Morgan, who knocked out Duane "Bang" Ludwig in an MMA match on the very same night that the TUF 1 finale was taking place earlier this year (April 9th). Viewers had just seen Morgan lose an exciting fight in the TUF 2 semi-finals to Luke Cummo, a fight that had just aired a few days earlier but originally took place on July 11th. Just a few days after that fight aired, Morgan was knocked out in the first 30 seconds of his undercard bout against Josh Burkman. A nasal fracture is bad enough, but an orbital bone fracture is even worse and usually prevents a fighter from doing any contact training for several months.

-The knee injury that Kerry Schall suffered shortly after arriving at the TUF 2 filming in June was re-aggravated during his undercard fight against Keith Jardine on November 5th. To make matters worse, Schall also suffered an injury to his right hand in the Jardine fight.

-Marcus Davis suffered a cut near his eyebrow during his fight against Melvin Guillard that was severe enough to cause his fight to be stopped and to warrant an eight-week medical suspension.

-Diego Sanchez and Nick Diaz went through a classic 15-minute war, and both fighters were pretty banged up after the fight. Sanchez had a big cut near his eyelid that would have likely caused the fight to be stopped if the fight were five minutes longer, which would have caused him to lose by TKO even though he was winning the fight by a fairly wide margin. Meanwhile, Diaz had several bruises and cuts on his head, causing him to get the same six-week medical suspension that was given to Sanchez.

-In their three-round, back-and-forth slugfest, Rashad Evans and Brad Imes did not suffer any specific injuries that concerned the doctors, but they did take a huge amount of punishment and also fought in an exhausted state for most of the contest. Though Evans came out on top via decision, both fighters were given six-week medical suspensions. In response to those who have asked, Tony Weeks was the one judge who had Imes winning the fight on his scorecard, while Nelson Hamilton and Abe Belardo had Evans winning.

-In another reminder that winning or losing doesn't necessarily have any impact on whether you will be medically suspended, Joe Stevenson was actually given a medical suspension after his victory over Luke Cummo, while Cummo was not given a medical suspension. In a competitive fight between the two, Stevenson dominated the positioning game and also came close to finishing the fight with submissions on more than one occasion, but it was Cummo who landed the more punishing blows in the stand-up. The doctors do not necessarily give stand-up striking exchanges any more or less regard than ground-and-pound striking exchanges, but in this particular case they chose to give Stevenson a six-week medical suspension, while not giving Cummo any medical suspension.

Medical Suspensions Stemming from the UFC 56 event on November 19th

-Nate Quarry was medically suspended for six months due to multiple nasal fractures suffered in his KO loss (if his nose is cleared in the next six months, Quarry will still be medically suspended for a minimum of two months)

-Trevor Prangley was medically suspended for six months and must have his right hand X-rayed and cleared by a doctor

-Sean Sherk was medically suspended for eight weeks due to a nasal laceration and punishment taken in his TKO loss

-Keith Wisniewski was medically suspended for eight weeks due to punishment taken in his decision loss

-Ansar Chalangov was medically suspended for six weeks due to punishment taken in his TKO loss

-Kevin Jordan was medically suspended for six weeks due to an upper lip laceration

Notes and Analysis:

-This event had a significantly lower amount of medical suspensions, with only six of the sixteen fighters getting medically suspended. It helps that there were no fights on this card that resulted in both fighters getting medically suspended, and there were two fights that resulted in neither fighter being medically suspended (Matt Hughes vs. Riggs, and Sam Hoger vs. Jeff Newton).

-Due to the brutal nature of his knockout loss at the hands of Rich Franklin, it is likely that Nate Quarry would have been medically suspended for at least a few months even if he didn't suffer any injuries. However, Quarry's suspension was lengthened to six months due to the doctors' belief that Quarry suffered multiple fractures to his nose in the fight. If a doctor subsequently determines that Quarry's nose has healed and decides to medically clear him sometime in the next six months, Quarry will still be medically suspended for a minimum of two months due to the fact that he was knocked out in such a brutal fashion.

-Trevor Prangley is believed to have broken his right hand at some point during his fight against Jeremy Horn, which Prangley lost via decision. All three judges (Marcos Rosales, Nelson Hamilton, and Glenn Trowbridge) had Horn winning the first two rounds and Prangley winning the third, resulting in a 29-28 victory for Horn on all three judges' scorecards.

-Sean Sherk took a lot of punishment in his surprisingly one-sided loss to Georges St. Pierre, and also had a fairly big cut on his nose, resulting in an eight-week medical suspension. Kevin Jordan was given a six-week medical suspension under much the same circumstances, with a big cut coming alongside a TKO loss.

-To demonstrate that the manner in which you lose doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the length of your medical suspension, look no further than the cases of Keith Wisniewski and Ansar Chalangov. Chalangov was TKO'ed in his fight, while Wisniewski lost his fight via decision. On paper, you would think that Chalangov would get a longer medical suspension, but you would be wrong. Due to the fact that Wisniewski took a lot more punishment over the course of his three-round decision loss than Chalangov did in his TKO loss, Wisniewski was medically suspended for eight weeks, while Chalangov was only suspended for six weeks.

Source: MMA Weekly

THOMPSON DENIES THERE IS A FIGHT SIGNED

There have been a few internet reports that Nick Thompson will face Joe Riggs in an upcoming UFC. Not so according to Thompson. Nick told MMAWeekly.com quote "My camp has not been offered this fight" in regards to a fight with Joe "Diesel" Riggs. Thompson said he would love the opportunity to face a guy like Riggs but it has not been offered despite published reports on a few other MMA sites.

Thompson last fought in the UFC at the last even in Las Vegas. Thompson defeated Keith Wisniewski by decision at UFC 56. Thompson has a record of 22-8 and has won six fights in a row. We will have more on the story at MMAWeekly.com your industry leader in MMA.

Source: MMA Weekly

 11/29/05

Quote of the Day

"Gratitude is the most exquisite form of courtesy."

Jacques Maritain, 1882-1973, French Philosopher

Fighters' Club TV Episode 35 Tonight!


Fighters' Club TV Episode 35 is cut and submitted to programming.
Airdates as follows: Nov 15, 22, and 29--Tuesday nights at 930pm on
Oceanic Ch.52 (Olelo on Oahu)

Episode 35 features:
-Highlights from ROTR qualifier fight between:
--Ronald "The Machine Gun" Jhun vs Thales Leite (plus intvw w/
Thales--this guy's a bad ass and BJ Penn's sparring partner)
Think you're a true MMA fight fan. Do you know who Randy "the Natural"
Couture is? How about Jens "lil Evil" Pulver? Find out what Randy's
feelings are on TUF2, the UFC, and Steroids. Jens talks about the Pride
GP he just fought in and his severe eye injury--did you know he's been
blind in one eye since his fight? Find out these things and more...

And of course, Hawaii's favorite FCTV personalities, Chris "the Handsome
One" & Mike "the Icon" Onzuka, and Mark "Special K" Kurano (aka. "the
other guy")

Don't miss the outtakes over the credits where our true talent is
showcased!

questions, comments, suggestions?
email us at:
fightersclubtv808@hotmail.com


If you have not checked out the Fighters' Club TV website, check it out.

The show is still on every Tuesday night at 9:30PM on Channel 52 and on Akaku in Maui.

Tuesday Night Fights at the Plaza Returns with a Double Header!
Tonight, November 29th In Hilo!

Check out the radio commericial!

After a successful inaugural event, Tuesday Night Fights returns for two events in one month! November will be a busy month for fight fans as Toughman Hawaii hosts its popular event two weeks apart from each other. The events will be held at the Academic & Athletic Training Center. The previous event took place on November 15th, and now the second part of the double header takes place on:

Tuesday, November 29, 2005

Visit Central Pacific A.C.'s Academic and Athletic Training Center for tickets.

More details including the fight card will be coming soon!

Source: Event Promoter

SHAMROCK TALKS TUF 3


Things can change quickly in the world of Mixed Martial Arts (MMA). The week before the UFC 56: 'Full Force' announcement that Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz would be 'The Ultimate Fighter' season three coaches, Ken was aggressively pursuing a rematch with Kazushi Sakuraba in Pride and had written off any chance of participating in the Spike TV reality show.

"It's been pretty exciting, and at the same time it kind of took me off guard a little bit." Shamrock said as he spoke with MMAWeekly SoundOff Radio about what unfolded in the days leading up to UFC 56 that made it possible for he and Ortiz to land the high profile coaching positions.

The deal came together only days before the UFC 56 pay-per-view broadcast. What changed from just a week before? Shamrock said, "Well one, Dana [White] actually called me and asked me to be on the show. Prior to that, Dana never called me. Nobody ever said anything to me about the show. As far as I knew they were moving in a different direction, and I was moving in a different direction."

Discussing the contents of the conversations with UFC president, Dana White, Shamrock divulged, "Dana gave me a call and said, hey, how would you like to come back to the UFC? And I was like sure. What do you got? I thought he had somebody that he wanted me to fight or something. He goes well, how would you like to be a coach on the reality show? And I said well, it was offered to me the first season, but I wasn't able to do it. I said, it sounds good, but you have to explain what are we doing here. I'm not just going to show up. He goes, you wouldn't believe who I've got for the other coach. Immediately I'm thinking, well I know Royce Gracie is out of the question, and I know Tito Ortiz is out of the question. He goes, nope, Tito Ortiz. And I was like OK man, sign me up. I'm there."

Ken continued, "At first I was like no, not really. He goes, no, we've got Tito. I was like how did you get Tito? He goes, we just signed him. I said, well if you've got Tito, I'm thinking, well if you've got Tito then I'm there."

Shamrock and Ortiz have a long history. The feud between Tito and the Ken Shamrock run 'Lion's Den' dates back to UFC 13: 'The Ultimate Force' where Ortiz lost to the Ken Shamrock trained Guy Mezger. Ortiz went on to defeat the 'Lion's Den' fighter Jerry Bolander at UFC 18: 'Road to the Heavyweight Title,' and then won a rematch with Mezger at UFC 19; 'Young Guns' where he paraded around after the bout with a t-shirt that said, "Gay Mezger is my Bitch," taunting Mezger's corner including Ken Shamrock.

It's no secret that Shamrock and Ortiz don't like each other. They've exchanged words in and out of the octagon on numerous occasions. No one seems to be able to get under Ken's skin like Ortiz has been able to in the past. Asked if he hates Tito Ortiz, Ken replied, "Hate is a strong word, and I am a very religious person, so I know hate is a bad thing, but I do hate what he does very much. Him as a person, I've never really got to know him. I know people that do know of him, and they basically all said that Tito's a good guy, but I don't see it. I just don't see it."

The third season of 'The Ultimate Fighter' will begin with pre-existing drama between Shamrock and Ortiz. The purpose of the reality was to build up unknown fighters to be UFC competitors. Has that changed? Is Ken concerned at all about what might ignite between he and Ortiz on national television?

Ken said, "I am a little concerned with it, but at the same time, I'm going to go in there and do the best job I can for these fighters because this is a great opportunity for these guys to really shine, and I do not by any means want to take anything away from these guys. I don't even want to try to get in the way of their opportunity. This is big time for them. It's probably a once in a lifetime opportunity. I do not want to be the one that screws it up for them, but at the same time, I'm not going to stand in the corner and be punked out or be pushed around. I will come out throwing, and as much as I want to make sure this is all about the Ultimate Fighters, and these guys get a great opportunity, at the same time I've worked way, way too long in my career and I'm the type of person that's not going to stand around and let someone be disrespectful, or try and punk me out, or even punk people out that I'm trying to work with."

At the conclusion of the next season of 'The Ultimate Fighter,' Ken Shamrock will get his long awaited rematch with Tito Ortiz. Ken was asked what he'll do different this time around to make sure he comes away with the win. He answered, "I think it's the same thing that I've been working on since I had the ACL replacement and I had the shoulder replacement. It's just getting healthy, and then when I get healthy, it's getting into the outstanding conditioning. I was in very, very good shape for the Sakuraba fight. I really believe that that's where I was peaking is right there, and it got stolen out from under me. I really believed everything was there. If I come in the same way that I came in for the Sakuraba fight, and leave out the technical stuff. You know? And just go out there and turn this into a damn street fight I will beat Tito Ortiz."

Ken continued, "I'm an aggressive person. I've been probably fighting on the streets since I was ten years old. That was part of my ability when I didn't have all the problems that I had was that I was an aggressive fighter. I've kind of steered away from that a little bit because of some of the injuries that I've had, trying to protect them and still get the win. When I fight Tito Ortiz, I ain't worrying about anything. I'm healthy. I'm going to get in good shape so that I can go three hard rounds throwing nothing but hands, feet, taking him down, smashing him with elbows, and then going for submissions. I will be very, very focused on this fight, and I will be in very good conditioning."

Shamrock's deal with the UFC is for two fights with one of them being Tito Ortiz, but who else would Ken like to fight after his rematch with 'The Huntington Beach Bad Boy?' Ken commented, "It's all been about Tito for the past four of five years...It's hard to even think past that. I haven't thought about it."

Season three of 'The Ultimate Fighter' will be interesting with Ortiz and Shamrock as opposing coaches, that much can be guaranteed. Ken gets his rematch with Ortiz, and Tito is back in the UFC. Stealing a line from Tito Ortiz, to see how it all unfolds we'll just have to "stay tuned."

Source: MMA Weekly

JUNGLE FIGHT - Full Results
Jungle FC 5th quick results

Arena at 5 Stars EcoResort Hotel in Manaus - AMAZONAS, Saturday, 26th

|1st| Beto Ninja front-choke on Sandro Bala in R2

|2nd| Ivan Batman unanimous decision over Fabio Tigrao, after 3 rounds

|3rd| Luciano Azevedo rear-naked-choke on Jose Aldo Jr. at R2

|4th| Miodrag "Pele" Petkovitch guillotine-choked Alessandro Coelho at R2

|5th| Alexandre "Cacareco" Ferreira choked-out Julio Cesar "Jamanta" at R1

|6th| Edson Draggo KO'd Helio Dipp ar R1

|7th| Fredson Paixao got the rear-naked-choke on Miljan Djursnovic at R1

|8th| CYBORG TKO'd Michael Matrela at R2

|9th| Jose "Pele" Landy-Johns won the split-decision over Alexander Shlemenko, after 3 rounds

Source: Maxfighting

 11/28/05

Quote of the Day

"Better three hours too soon than a minute too late."

William Shakespeare,1564-1616, English Poet/Dramatist/Playwright

Mike and Mark on Icon Sport Radio This Morning

Check out your favorites TV personalities (or lack of personalities) on the Icon Sport Radio Show this morning on 1420 AM at 9-10 AM as Mike Onzuka and Mark Kurano from the award winning Fighters' Club TV make a stop in to Hawaii's only one hour dedicated MMA talk show.

Be sure tune into another exciting hour of MMA interviews, opinions, and updates on The Icon Sport MMA Show presented by Steinlager Monday morning at 9 a.m (HST), 12pm (PST) on Sports Radio 1420 am KKEA. Our first two shows have been action-packed with guests Dana White, Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, and the one-and-only Jason "Mayhem" Miller. We've had lots of great listener call-ins already, but we would like more!

Last week the streaming link at www.sportsradio1420.com had a coding error and did not function properly. We apologize to all of our listeners who were unable to catch the show on-line. KKEA engineers have assured us that the web link is now up and ready. So, if you're stuck at your desk, or if you're one of national/international listeners, listen to the show on your computer.

We encourage all listeners to call the show to answer the daily fan question and speak to our MMA celebrity guests. Local listeners can call (808) 296-1420. Mainland and international listeners can call the toll free line at (866) 400-1420. You can also email the show at inconsportradio@yahoo.com.

BARONI AND PENN ALMOST FIGHT EACH OTHER IN BAR

"After the UFC show on 11/19, many of the fighters went to Pure, a night club in Caesar's Palace. Phil Baroni was there, and apparently way out of control. He saw Chris Leben, who UFC was attempting to match him up with, but it fell through, largely because Baroni was under contract to PRIDE.

Baroni, pissed off and angry, approached Leben. Leben, seeing the state Baroni was in, stayed very calm. Baroni asked Leben if he wanted to fight him, and Leben said, "No, you would probably kill me," smartly diffusing the situation.

However, Baroni then saw a MMA website reporter who apparently had made a lot of cracks about Baroni and steroids, and punched the guy in the face. The reporter was sitting with B.J. Penn, who stepped in and told Baroni to cool it. Baroni, who was holding a drink, put his drink down and then challenged Penn to go at it.

Unlike Leben, Penn was ready, but it was broken up by security because a punch had been thrown (at the reporter) and Baroni was out of there."

SILVA TRAINING FOR ARONA


While waiting for the official Pride confirmation, Wanderlei Silva continues his preparation to the fight against Ricardo Arona, which might take place at December 31st's Pride.

The dispute will decide who is the best Middleweight champion of Pride, once Wanderlei holds the title. Wanderlei has been dedicating his training during the afternoon for his physical preparation, with the special support of the trainer Rafael Alejarra, disciple of Paulo Caruso. The trains are being done at his house, in Curitiba (PR), and Wanderlei have been working his resistance, explosion, with gradual load increase.

Source: MMA Weekly

Jungle Fight in Brazil

With no explanation as to why this event is not in Las Vegas, as was declared after Jungle Fight 4, this sensational fighting event returns to the five stars EcoResort Hotel arena. Top local Brazilians are set to take on several mysterious European fighters. There have been A few cancellations from the original card like the absence of Care Rage super-heavyweight champion Antonio "Pezao" Silva, former UFC title contender Jorge "Macaco" Patino and the former King of the Cage standout Gustavo "Ximu" Machado all have had to bow out of the competition. Fans may think that the card is left without its real star power, but in looking at the line-up, one may see that there are some bouts that hold a great deal of promise. There are several interesting clashes of style, and a few undiscovered talents that could really make there ark on he Mixed Martial Arts world.

Keep an eye on Jose Aldo (Nova Uniao) taking on Luta-Livre's Luciano Azevedo (RFT) in a fight that will not likely go the distance. It is a classic Striker vs. Grappler confrontation. In another match, we see yet another chapter in the rivalry between BTT and ChuteBoxe ufold as Cacareco takes on Jamanta. Jamanta's teammate and recent Storm Samuari winner, CYBORG, faces the undefeated and skilled Polish fighter Michal Materla. He is a left-hand striker that will provide an interesting challenge for CYBORG.

Other TOP Brazilians such as Pele Landy, Fredson Paixao and Montenegro will be in against some vert tough unknown fighters who will not let this chance to kick start their career escape. Pay close attention in Djurasinovic x Paixao, Shlemenko x Pele Landy and Petkovitch x Montenegro.

The under-card shows us many great confrontations of Brazilian up&comers in Reny x Ninja, and the return of Carlson Gracie Team's Ivan 'Batman' Jorge versus Fabio Tigrao.

Full card for Jungle Fight 5:
Luciano Azevedo versus Jose Aldo Jr
CYBORG versus Michal Materla
Alexandre "Cacareco" Ferreira versus Julio Cesar "Jamanta"
Fredson Paixao versus Miljan Djurasinovic
Helio Dipp versus Marcus Sursa
Leopoldo Montenegro versus Miodrag "Pele" Petkovitch
Jose "Pele" Landy-Johns versus Alexander Shlemenko
Beto Ninja versus Sandro Reny
Ivan Jorge "Batman" versus Fabio Tigrao

Source: Maxfighting

 11/27/05

Quote of the Day

"Having once decided to achieve a certain task, achieve it at all costs of tedium and distaste. The gain in self-confidence of having accomplished a tiresome labor is immense."

Thomas A. Bennett

BJ Penn to Fight Georges St. Pierre

Rumor has it that part of the deal that BJ Penn requested concerning his return to the UFC was to fight the winner of the Georges St. Pierre-Sean Sherk fight. Could the thought be to "introduce himself" to all the new UFC fight fans that have come aboard from The Ultimate Fighter TV series, which would pump up the rematch between him and current champ Matt Hughes?

Or could it be that BJ wants to eliminate all doubt by beating UFC's number one contender and then beating the champ? Knowing BJ...he is probably doing it for both reasons.

Punishment In Paradise
Department of Corrections!!

Previously, I announced David Padilla of Jesus Is Lord Gym was fighting in one of the main events, Mr. Padilla didn't realize his contract with ICON sports had a 30 day clause which he was remind of from ICON represenative. We wish Mr. Padilla great sucess in his fight Feb 11, 2006

Source: Event Promoter

Who is the Number One Welterweight Contender?
By Jeremy Wall

Winning his fourth fight in a row against a top ranked contender, on November 19th Matt Hughes again proved that he has been the most dominant UFC champion in history. Although his win over Joe Riggs was a non-title match, the outcome would have remained the same whether or not Riggs had been able to make weight for the fight.

Since early 2001, Hughes has only lost once. Of course, that was an infamous defeat at the hands of BJ Penn, who tapped Hughes out quickly with a rear naked choke in January 2004. After taking Hughes' belt, Penn left the UFC over a contract dispute, in the meantime fighting for K-1 and in his home state of Hawaii. Now, nearly two years later, he's back.

Should BJ Penn get the next title shot at Hughes? MMAWeekly.com is reporting that UFC wants Penn to compete in one fight before he challenges for the title. Why? It's not like BJ Penn was sitting at home reading comic books and watching daytime TV during his time away from UFC. Since defeating Hughes, he scored victories over Duane Ludwig, Rodrigo Gracie (at middleweight) and Renzo Gracie. He also went to a decision loss against the much larger Ryoto Machida, who is the only fighter to hold a win over current UFC Middleweight champ Rich Franklin. The only other loss in Penn's career was via majority decision to Jens Pulver nearly four years ago. BJ Penn does not need to prove himself. Did Riggs (regardless of the weight issue, it was originally a title bout), or Nate Quarry??? How about Eilers???

It is true that UFC now has a log-jam of competitors at welterweight. Penn, Georges St-Pierre and Karo Parisyan all have a legitimate claim to the next title shot against Hughes. They also have a legitimate chance of dethroning Hughes and taking the title.

UFC has a couple of options here. If it is indeed true that they want BJ Penn to wait for the next shot, then it would stand to reason that St-Pierre will get the very next title match against Hughes. St-Pierre is coming off two amazing performances against former number one contenders Frank Trigg and Sean Sherk, and deserves a title shot more than anyone. Anyone other than maybe BJ Penn, which is the key issue here.

In the meantime, Penn would face a high-level welterweight opponent. Maybe it could be Karo, maybe it could be someone else. If Penn wins, he gets the winner of St-Pierre vs. Hughes.

I prefer to invert that idea. BJ Penn's last fight in the UFC saw him defeat Hughes for the title. His first fight back is the fight that everyone wants to see: the Hughes-Penn title rematch. Penn should get the next shot at the belt, with St-Pierre getting the winner. The problem with this idea is that St-Pierre may have to fight in the meantime, which would mean that he could blow a big title fight either by loss or injury.

In either scenario Karo gets left in the dust, unless UFC decides to place him ahead of St-Pierre in the pecking order. That of course would be a bad idea because the St-Pierre-Hughes fight is the far more interesting proposition.

Karo will have to take another fight (or two) in the meantime, depending on how long his injury lasts. The Hughes vs. St-Pierre, Karo vs. Penn idea is certainly not a bad one, with the two winners meeting over the title. It guarantees at least two solid welterweight title main events, and three great fights.

The flaw with this combination is that the biggest money fight is Penn-Hughes, and there is a real chance that Karo (or whomever else) could beat Penn. Remember, even though Penn did defeat Hughes when they met, he is not known for being a clutch performer. He has had three title fights in the UFC, and the fight against Hughes was the only one which he was victorious. There is a chance Penn could blow it and we never get the Penn-Hughes rematch we want, or do get it but it ends up being too late.

This is the primary difference between promoting MMA and pro wrestling. In pro wrestling, you would book Penn in a comeback fight against a top opponent, and he wins. You would book Hughes against St-Pierre and he wins. Then you book Penn vs. Hughes and you get the two big Hughes fights (against St-Pierre and Penn respectively). You then book St-Pierre in a couple of big fights, he wins boths, and becomes a contender again and maybe wins the title at that point.

In MMA you can't book the finishes (obviously). This means the philosophy for when you do the money match is totally different from pro wrestling. You have to do the big money fight when it makes sense and when it is available. Penn vs. Hughes right now makes perfect sense and it can happen if Zuffa wants it to. St-Pierre should face the winner of that fight, and Karo will have to wait a few more months. But it seems that scenario is one that will not play out in the immediate future.

Source: Maxfighting

ANTONIO SILVA VS. VILLAREAL

Antonio Silva

Brazilian magazine 'Tatame' reports that the matchup of Antonio Silva vs. Ruben Villarreal will take place on the Cagewarriors Strike Force 4 card on November 26th in Coventry, England. The bout will be for the Cagewarriors super heavyweight belt.

Source: Fight Sport

TITLE SHOT FOR LOISEAU?
by Jeff Cain

Who is next in line for an Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) title shot is sometimes murky water. Who deserves one and who gets one aren't always the same. David 'The Crow' Loiseau feels he's next in line for an opportunity at the UFC middleweight belt, but nothing is signed. Asked if he was fighting for the title next, David answered, "I don't know. I don't know yet."

"They told me that's what they want to do, but they change their minds all the time. You know?" Loiseau told MMAWeekly SoundOff Radio.

When UFC Middleweight Champion Rich 'Ace' Franklin spoke with MMAWeekly on Monday, he commented that Loiseau and Nat